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Spools 2 years ago #11136

Mace ( User ) OFFLINE Class 11 King Stock Bug challenge huh..... Posts: 546 Karma: 3	Is there any reason NOT to run a spool?? They seem pretty reasonable cost wise and the traction through silt would be a benefit.
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11139

bobmssr ( User ) OFFLINE Co-Dog Posts: 88 Karma: 0	I have heard that it puts bigger loads on everything else in the tranny ie; Ring&Pinion and spiders. Limited slip would work better but co$t may be an issue. If you do try the spool let the rest of us know how it works..
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11140

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bobmssr wrote:

I have heard that it puts bigger loads on everything else in the tranny ie; Ring&Pinion and spiders. Limited slip would work better but co$t may be an issue. If you do try the spool let the rest of us know how it
works..

Spools dont have spider gears, the only drawback I see is it is extremely hard on cv joints, the other upside is when you break a vc joint, one wheel still pushes, possibly enough to get you to a faster place to change an axle. Also when they check your gear ratios they will have to have both wheels of the ground and a different degree wheel

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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11141

bobmssr ( User ) OFFLINE Co-Dog Posts: 88 Karma: 0	So it is not harder on the internals?
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11142

11newb ( User ) OFFLINE Co-Dog Posts: 117 Karma: 2	To a point, but not substantial. If you look at it larger tires are extremely harder on the trans, but I don't see any one running 165 tires
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11143

Mace ( User ) OFFLINE Class 11 King Stock Bug challenge huh..... Posts: 546 Karma: 3	Exactly, How can the pinion know how many tires are on the ground. Added traction is a really nice thing when climbing hills. Plus, it'll kick the rear end out in corners and you can play \"drift wars\"
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11159

Mace ( User ) OFFLINE Class 11 King Stock Bug challenge huh..... Posts: 546 Karma: 3	Picked up a drag spool. I probably won't have it in by BAP, but it should be in by Caliente :D We shall see what breaks first..
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11162

Weasel ( Moderator ) OFFLINE Spam Assasin Posts: 757 Karma: 9	I don't think that a spool is legal for class 11. Transmission has to be as delivered to the US. VW never to my knowledge sold a locker trans. They did deliver a few limited slip models so they would be legal.
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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11168

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[bold]\"SCR25 Transmission
Type 1 bug 4 speed transaxle only. Heavy duty side plate and differential
allowed. 8.33 (4.12) ring and pinion only. Stock VW 1\"t, 2n
, 3rd , 4th gears only,
no close ratio gears allowed. Axle over tubes are not allowed. Other intemal
modifications are optional. Rear transaxle mounts may be supported by a
maximum of two vertical straps of .025\" x \"I\" dimension. Adjustable straps are
optional. Any gearshift lever allowed. Shift tube must be inside tunnel. Any type
1,2 or181 stub axle and any VW cv joint Oversize bolts ok.\"[/bold]

Where does it say \"as delivered to the us\"?

Isn't a spool just a \"heavy duty differential\" ??

Obviously I am not trying to be illegal here. If I was, I certianly would not post it on an open forum. ;)

Special thanks to
Derek at www.denospeedwerks.com/
Jose at www.dprmachine.com/
www.bakercylinderheads.com/
Mike and Chris at f-o-a.com/
And Greg at www.getpipe.com

It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

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Re:Spools 2 years ago #11181

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Mace,
Well, good question. I think that a heavy duty reference means the same parts but stronger. The locker would or would not have spider gears? Without, would not really be the intent of the rules. Figure a way to stick two in the thing and I'm with you, legal.
Ask SNORE tech or Bill Savage for a definite ruling. If you find a limited slip for sale please let me know. I would love to try that.
Jeff

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